i think there is a place for debate and discussion, but it's not debates and intellectual exchange that won souls. trying to iron out every last inkling of scientific truth will not get you anywhere. there are two sides to any coin and both... sides can claim to have the answers to 'creation science' and everything else that is empirical. there is much we know of the earth and it's workings, but there is so much we don't. can we proudly assume the rules we've empirically worked out hold true for every single thing that was, is and is to come? empirical is how man tries his best to find out the truth about something. however, along with everything else, it is imperfect. a lot of what we know is empirical. it is excellent, but imperfect. a lot of what we know is not empirical but qualitative as well. does that mean there is no place for that? some things cannot be defined in numbers and figures, but you know it holds true and is valid. if God meant the world for the intellectuals then a lot of people miss out. can one figure one's creator out? i think not. i believe it is only responsible to know and learn to defend your faith, but it's not your god-like knowledge of the world and its workings that do God's work. there's so so much more. i believe that is what we want to invite you to share in. btw no pun intended with "god-like".... loll.